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mack collier

As with anything else involving social media, I think when you start thinking about Ok...what do *I* get out of this?, then it all starts going to hell in a handbasket. Same thing with personal branding, its becoming an excuse by some to shine the look at me! spotlight on themselves. And lord knows we already have enough overly-inflated egos in this space (present company excluded, of course!).

Amber Naslund

Frank - your points, as always, are salient. I think where it gets stuck is the word brand and whether youre defining a brand superficially, or as the very *essence* of a thing or person.

Im willing to concede that your reputation is part and parcel to your personal brand, if you like that term. And yep, I think brands can lack substance (which is why they flounder). I think what I resent is the idea that because I declare my legitimacy by calling myself a personal brand (vs. a shilling, good for nothing vapid waste of oxygen that I might truly be), Im giving people the idea that because Ive used the word brand, Im worth paying attention to. Perhaps Im being protective of the use of the term brand to applying to something of substance, and now youve got me thinking about whether or not thats accurate, or fair. Hmm.

Thanks for continuing the discussion.

Ann Handley

absolutely Frank. This issue feels like less a debate to me than a clarification... But it nonetheless needs to be said.

P.S. Whos the pole dancer, anyway? : )

Jane Chin

My personal brand comes wholly from what I have contributed and produced, whether to my profession or in healthcare. I often look to others as a better interpreter of my personal brand than what I think it may be, because they are the real judges in what value I have or may have produced to society. People dont care about your name until it comes to stand FOR something, THROUGH your actions.

Frank Martin

@Mack, excellent points. We HAVE to put the people who trust us first - in the end, thats what I want said about my personal brand.

@Amber - To me, the brand is both the superficial and the essence. We can just more readily see one than the other. And I dont think *brand* implies necessarily anything of substance; I can think of several *brands* that are negative and off-putting because of their behavior or antics, such as the Oakland Raiders. Martha Stewart, or Carmike Cinema. When I see that logo, the bile rises in my throat, just as I smile when I see your Altitude Branding logo. On ones I dont know - it conjures nothing!

And @Ann - yes! All of Geoffs points need to be made and remade again and again to hold us all accountable for the adding of value. The pole dancer? Youll have to ask Geoff that one! ;-)

Lloyd Lemons

Well said. And your line-- It is a handy framework for helping people understand themselves as a business, and for making them think about WHO and WHAT they are, and what value they can add to their communities. --sums it up perfectly.

Sonny Gill

Right on Frank. As Amber eluded to in one of her recent posts, you have to be able to GIVE to your community. Doing so will help show the value that you can provide to your network and help grow that along with your reputation and brand.

Karen Swim

Frank, I really enjoyed this post and the discussion of the various perspectives. Helping people with their personal brands is a key part of my service offering but I have always chuckled at the term. We have always been a brand. Your mother was your first branding expert, she admonished you to deliver quality, leverage your value and taught you that image and reputation were your calling cards. Years later we coined a term and figured out that we could market and monetize that brand. The older I get the more I realize that my parents really did know it all!

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